Dec 7, 2013 10:00pm EST
. if you remember the primary season in 2008 when clinton was running against obama for the democratic nomination, and there was a guy who, at one of clinton's rallies -- >> host: hillary clinton's rally. >> guest: yes, held up a sign that said "iron my shirt," remember that? >> host: yes. >> guest: i asked the students, i teach a large lecture class, and how many remembered that? by the way, in 2009, i asked the question, not five years later. i asked students here, how many of you remember that? i had, like, 10%, 20% hands. i said, yeah, because it really didn't pass on to the media radar. few of us knew it, people who knoll these sorts of things knew it. imagine if at an obama rally some guy held up a sign that said polish my shoes. don't you think that every media outlet would have been front page, john mccain, every republican would have said, wait, stop everything. that's wrong. >> host: is it because they don't think it's dangerous? you know, after all, you're talking to a woman running, i don't know. >> guest: i think it's just because it just seems more acceptable.